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out of washington. we have boehner coming out with plan b. we are getting harry reid response saying that speaker banners -- boehner approach is very far away. the markets have managed to move back higher. there is a look at the nasdaq. the dow is a winner of about .5%. connell: let's follow up on this breaking news on the speaker of the house john boehner. dagen: richardson is live in washington, d.c. with what the heck. rich: the house will vote as early as this week to extend tax rates for those making less than a million dollars a year. house speaker john boehner says he is still negotiating plan a with president obama. the reason for the backup plan, speaker boehner says, after optimism, the white house is latest offer has soured the mood within republicans. >> it was essentially a $1.3 trillion in new revenues for only $853 billion in net spending reductions that is not balanced in my opinion. rich: there are substantial differences. the speaker is willing to allow a rate hike on those earning less than, excuse me, more than 1 million. speaker boehner wants a $1 trillion in spe
it to be cut. and wonks in washington, d.c. spend their time trying to figure out how to cut medicare. both democrat and republican. and with this very thorny contradiction in mind, politicians and think tank analysts and the like have developed a whole secondary-coated language to talk about medicare. so premium support instead of privatizing medicare, and structural medicare reform instead of raising the eligibility age. now, remember the context for all this. this is important. remember that phrase we first started hearing at the start of the health reform debate, which may be apocryphal, "keep government hands off my medicare." the big tea party uprising was in large part a reaction to the idea, quote/unquote, of socialized medicine. it was the affordable care act, and the government, quote, takeover of health care, that fanned the flames of the post-obama tea party protest. but, of course, most of the actual republicans who were actually elected back then were elected because they ran ads like this. >> congressman brad ellsworth said he would protect our seniors. but when he got to was
are always relatively optimistic about the economy, but even after last night and what we in washington? >> sure. you know, yes, the fiscal cliff is coming. we have known him for a long time. the dow is still over 13,000. it is not just because the market thinks we have the great deal ever. tax rates will go up. we will have deficits, as far as the eye can see. by the way, we had pretty darn good news on personal income and spending and durable goods today. the economy is hanging in there, as well. connell: i thought it would be interesting to watch the close, because to me, maybe a deal is more likely after last night because the speaker, if anything, lost his leverage. how do you view that part of it? >> in the end, there is really an infinite number of outcomes. we believeethere is really just about 25% chance that we just go over the cliff unimpeded. the sequestration happens and all of the tax hikes. some kind of deal will probably get done. if the house were to pass that bill, it could go into law. it would keep dividend and tax rates from going higher. they just cannot reach a de
in washington are calling for more gun controls, the nra wants to fight fire with fire in schools or maybe it's just the deterrent factor that they're hoping for. cnn national correspondent susan candiotti joining me from new york. is that the message that most people expected or wanted to hear from the nra? >> you know, everyone agrees that something needs to change, the question is, of course, is this the moment. armed guards in every school? we're getting different reactions to that. for example, in newtown, connecticut, where the community is still reeling after a shooter blasted his way into sandy hook elementary school and systematically gunned down 20 children and six adults, people are asking is this what we want to do now, put armed guards in every school? here's a sample of opinion in newtown. >> i'm very torn at this point. i'm not happy with the nra. i am not happy with the nra, and i am a gun owner myself. there's just no reason for automatic weapons out there in the public. and clips that discharge so many rounds of ammunition. >> i have many guns. but i don't have a third round
because of the gridlock in washington over this fiscal cliff. christine, you had a behind-the-scenes look yesterday at what's happened. >> i interviewed the ceo of fedex about the fiscal cliff, energy securities, but along the lines of the fiscal cliff there were a lot of people at this event, gene sperling, an adviser to the president, roy blount, a republican senator from tennessee there as well. people are grim right now about where we are on the fiscal cliff. i asked the ceo of fedex, he employs people. he is shipping packages. he cares about the price of oil, price of energy, and he cares about the clarity of what's happening in washington. listen so what i asked him. >> as a ceo, when you're watching the fiscal cliff, how do you make decisions? is it irrelevant to your business if we go over the fiscal cliff? how does a ceo look at what's happening in washington and decide for next year? >> most of the ceos look at the situation in washington with complete amazement and dismay to be frank about it. the problem is the ideological pinnings on both sides of this argument are so difficu
birthday to get a horse. she adored them. >>> another big story out of washington where there's been huge movement in the fiscal cliff wrangling with 14 days left to go before huge across-the-board tax hikes. overnight we learned that president obama made an eye-opening new offer in talks with house speaker john boehner. under this new proposal, tax rates would go up on incomes above $400,000. for years the president has campaigned that that number should start at $250,000. he's also offering some new spending cuts to go along with this. speaker boehner's latest proposal called for the tax hikes to kick in at $1 million. cnn's dan lothian is in washington with the latest on this. dan, it really does look like there is some movement. >> it does. this movement came during a meeting the president had with speaker john boehner yesterday at the white house. that meeting lasted for 45 minutes. it was the third time they had met in the past eight days. you're right, it is pretty dramatic because the president for years now had been holding steadfast to that $250,000 threshold, saying that the bu
leader, eric kantor, warning lawmakers they will stay in washington until a fiscal deal is reached. allen west is here. before we get to the idea of staying in washington, you have said that negotiating with president obama is, to quote you, silly. >> i think when you look at what just happened today, the federal reserve will go into what is using -- >> greta: printing money. a fancy way to say it -- >> to the tune of $45 million a month foritous buy up our own treasury stocks. the argument is about $85 billion per year. when you put it thatn that context and understand that revenues have increased in the united states of america by 10% and spending by the for the government has increased 16% and we have a federal government spending 25s% of our gross domestic product, this is not a revenue issue, this is a spending issue. i think what we need to do is come up with the right type of legislation to solve this thing, keep these tax rates where they are and then if we want to come back next year and do the right thing, as far as the comprehensive tax scprmpl really solving this and promoting
that reflects conservative ideas. match that with the researchers in washington that to the policy work for heritage. connell: i think a lot of people will hear or read about this today and think about the conversation we have been having about the future of the republican party. does the tea party still have, you know, lindsey graham just put a statement out saying he is very disappointed that demint is leaving. the conservative movement lost a strong voice. he will do a great job at heritage. is this part of that story? >> i think senator demint believes that the republican message going into the election was a strong one. it just simply was not well articulated. i agree with senator demint. i do not believe that the republican party has to transform its position and become more moderate. take an idea like economic growth. the difference between 2% growth and 3.5% is a different like night and day. senator demint told me he started his career as a market researcher and advertising. he knows how to communicate with people. he became very frustrated sitting in the senate failing to do a
of oil. we'll drill down on the answers. >>> plus, more talk and no walk in washington. shocker there. both side insist we need to stop spending. not that they're cutting a single penny from a single government program. fox news's bret baier with the real cost of spending. >>> we all love a good hamburger, right? but is that pesky wrapper keep getting in your way? one fast-food chain may have solved the problem for good. they're making the wrapper edible. you have to see this one to believe it, trust me. even when they say it's not it is always about money. melissa: first, let's take a look at the day's market headlines. fiscal cliff talks may be a mess but not ruining the party for investors. u.s. third quarter gdp was revised up to 3.1%. not bad. november existing home seams -- sales hit nice not seen. wall street shares of the nyse euronext skyrocketed 34%. the company is being acquired by rival intercontinental exchange for $3.2 billion in cash and stock. >>> research in motion may be crawling its way out of the abyss. the blackberry maker left for dead earlier this year. now shar
in michigan and in washington, d.c. with the author of "shadow bosses: how government. employee unions control america and rob taxpayers blind." mallory factor joins us. also tonight, egypt's president, muhammad morsi, ordering the egyptian military to arrest people in the street even as he claimed to have rescinded the dictatorial powers he assumed which have spurred violent demonstrations. and a new intelligence report concludes that america's time as the lone superpower is nearing an end. former director of national intelligence john negro panty joins us to talk about our future as a superpower and the challenges that we'll surely face. we begin tonight with one of the few scheduling misadventures of president obama's swire tenure in -- entire tenure in office. the president speaking to autoworkers outside detroit today, a day before governor snyder will sign michigan's newly-passed right-to-work law into effect. the president standing firmly with the unions that worked hard to get him reelected. >> what we shouldn't do, i just gotta say this, what we shouldn't be doing is try to take away
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to vent for the money back and we have to wait for someone in a building in washington dc to decide where the money is going to be distributedwhen we should just keep it in the house. you know, keep the taxes the same, but let new jersey pulled onto a larger version of it. neil: melissa? >> you know the faces, you know how to help them. when this country relied more on the community, your friends, your church -- the people around you. it work better. neil: it's like wih school shootings and all that. gun advocates, whatever you do, don't use sothing like bad. climate change is the same thing. where they are going to use it. the u.n. talking about setting up climate change, now this in the united states. >> it is absolutely despicable. essentially, that is what is going on. the politicians are so greedy for extra power and money. neil: the fire before them is not getting to these people. if you really want to go in direct climate change, you know, what is happening with the glaciers and blame on them -- but right now, this is not the time. >> that pr opportunity has are gone by. i hate to
a wonderful sunday. >> jamie: glad you were with us. to washington now. have a great day, everybody. >> just a week after the jovaughn belcher tragedy, another shock for the nfl. one play or is dead and other is you should arrest after a car crash believed to be cause bide drunk driving. jerry brown has died and a teammate, josh brent, has been charged in his death. the first hour of america's news headquarters, starts with a report from our own casey stegele, live in cowboys stadium in arlington, texas. >> reporter: yeah. cowboys stadium behind me is quiet today because america's team is in cincinnati, playing the bengal this is afternoon. but we understand the team was briefed about this tragedy before their plane left dallas yesterday, that's when they learned that one of their teammates was dead and another one was behind bar, 24-year-old josh brent is expected to post bail later today from irving, texas, where he was arrested. police there say late friday night, early saturday morning, the cowboys' nose tackle left a club in dallas, was driving above the posted speed limit, hit a curb a
.5%. connell: a news alert from washington. you will see it here live from d.c. as we wait for the speaker, we will hear from a guy who says >> whatever god deal is signed, there will be a lot of pressure. boehner will have to cut a deal that raises taxes. their idea of fiscal conservatism, for two decades, has only been about taxes. meanwhile, under current sentiment, underneath him, why don't you finally go after spending. those tea party people will be completely hostile to whatever deal comes up. connell: the reason he is speaker of the house is because of those tea party. the same group that may, if you are right though i drive him out of town. >> he has been systematically pushing tea party people out of committees in order to get his conference more in line. connell: he better kind of followed the line here. >> that is how you organize and discipline. it will hurt the economy without solving the problem. connell: is he supposed to -- that would be characterized as a "grand bargain." if you are right, his job is literally on the line. >> there isn't much of an option. he has not been tal
reached to avert sought called fiscal cliff, he would be coming back to washington after christmas. >> so where did that leave things terms of the fiscal cliff? here's l jonathan karl. >> congress not a creature is stirring. no deal is in sight. with deadline looming and seemingly no hope anywhere, the president made one last appeal tonight before washington goes on vacation. >> as we leave town for a few days to be with our families, through the holidays, everybody can cool off. everybody can tl drink some egg nog. now is not the time for more self inflicted wounds. certainly not those coming from washington. >>reporter: but the 2 sides don't even seem to be trying any more. what are we going to do now. >> i'm interested in solving the major problems that face our country. and that means house leaders senate leaders and the president are going to continue to have to work together to address those concerns. >>reporter: speaker boehner says the only way out is a deal that cuts spending and reforms the tax code but even he seemed to suggest that is virtually impossible now. >> how w
closing in the red. investors spooked by bad housing data and all that nonsense in washington. dow closing down almost 99 points. another rough day for gold. a rise in homebuilder confidence driving investors away for a two-session loss of nearly 2%. right now gold is hovering around $1670 an ounce. oil futures for a fourth straight session of gains, crude oil for january delivery gained 1.8% to settle at $89.51 a barrel. >>> all right. we're going to start tonight with a special holiday treat. it's the week before christmas and all through the house, lawmakers are frantic and starting to grouse. not from the cliff, though they do say they care, but from more and more bailouts which could soon fill the air. gm has been saved, they are snug in their beds, but images of fema, fha and the post office now entering our heads. all right, enough holiday poems, can't take anymore. go straight to tonight's game. who gets bailout booty and who gets the coal in their stocking? joining me now to help santa make out his list, brian wesbury no i know enjoyed my little poem. first trust advisors. >> i lo
what i understand in washington, the president is saying what is critical is that republicans have to stop being inflection i believe by protecting the top two percent and sacrificing the rest of us. and if they do something about taxes on the very rich we can then talk about what spending cuts will be put in place. >> david. >> it's not fair and it's not intellectually honest, juan, my friend, to say the top two percent are harming the rest of the country because of their tax rate. they are already paying the highest rate. >> what? >> they are paying more than their fair share, and i repeat, i repeat, this is not an issue that's going to resolve the debt issue. it won't make a debt in it. >> wait, david. that's a distortion. david, that's a distortion torsion. >> no, it's not. >> nobody said and sean rightly pointed out the taxes that will be imposed on the top two percent would only pay for government spending for eight days or so. >> that's right. >> that's right. >> the reality is what you have to say is everybody is making a contribution to reduce the size of the debt, and tha
but mandy has been celebrating boxing day all day. we didn't get any presents from lawmakers in washington yet. we're still five days away from falling off the proverbial fiscal cliff and wall street, like everybody else, is waiting for some kind of a solution here, and as you can see by today's numbers the waiting game continues, although we thank brian sullivan and you, mandy, for bringing us back to positive territory in the last hour. >> i'm not sure we can take credit but we'll take it. >> the dow is up a fraction at the moment. 13,139 after a meandering much of the day. the nasdaq hardest hit today. technology has been very volatile recently. still down a fraction right now. 13 points, fraction percentage-wise and the s&p is down 3.33 at 1423. five days left until the fiscal cliff deadline, and though the market has been very resilient to this point, what happens if we go over the cliff and if lawmakers cannot get it together come january 1st? will it be a big meltdown for wall street? that's what everybody wants to know. >> certainly hope know. in today's "closing bell" exchange, fo
is live in washington. >> good morning, gretchen and everybody. washington is shut down for the christmas holiday . when everybody does come back to town, the ball will be in the democrat's court because speaker boehner was unable to bring his on board. for the plan b. >> onous is on senator reid and the president to come up with a solution and present it to the house and get back to the bargaining table. >> now the president has insisted on a tax hike for the healthy but wants that at $250,000 or $400,000 and not one mill yen and even though the president scaled back his expectations for what can be accomplished some democrats said a grand bargain shouldn't be that hard to reach. >> we ought to take peeker boehner and the president's last offer and split the difference and it would be a package 2.6 trillion can couple that with 1.1 trillion and that would be close to four trillion needed to stabilize the debt and bring it down. >> the president and members was congress will return to washington wednesday or thursday and try to hammer out a deal. most likely a short-term deal to get us pa
is happening in washington. what the feds know that perhaps we don't know. >> we are getting smacked around by these two separate events. the fiscal cliff as well as aftermath of what went on with the fed. i think the fed is still very important here. take a look the dow industrials. remember, we started moving down right after we saw mr. bernanke give his press conference. we talked about fiscal cliff having problems, not having the tools to deal with the fiscal cliff. the fed not having it, should we go over that. there we are dealing with the aftermath. remember something folks, september 14 is the high for the s&p this year. you know why that is important in september 13 is the fed meeting. they bought into the fed meeting and sold right after that, sue. and they are doing that again today. we are repeating what happened just a few months ago. i think that's why it is very important. elsewhere, defense stocks. here is a group that's very worried about frustration when mr. bernanke started getting tampered with questions on the fiscal cliff. you saw the defense stocks move down. very rar
with washington. >> first of all, congressman, you threw out a number there, there are a lot of numbers that can confuse people. you talk about $31 billion. the reality is, over 10 years, based on documents i have seen from republicans, raising the top rates would get you over $400 billion in new revenue. so that is a fact that both sides agree on. >> david, in two months of this new pacific northwe new fiscal year, you have $10 billion in revenue but 16% increase in spending. it is a spending problem. and the president wants to increase taxes to continue the spending. he proposed a plan that put a new spend list in that added more than just the top two rates' worth in the first year. that's the problem with washington. >> and i want to get to the spending and the entitlement question in just a moment, but i want to stay on tax rates for one minute. congressman, there are members of your own party who are saying privately, some publicly, just fold on the tax rates so that conservatives can get a better deal. just this week on "morning joe" on msnbc, here is tom coburn, republican conservative fr
out of washington have been priced into this market. the dow jones industrials dropped nearly 1%. the nasdaq up 1.4%. a look at the dow jones intraday with a majority of the dow components all into the green, names like bank of america leading the way, oil services all doing well, and talking with equity partners and said why does it pop right now if they think the fiscal cliff talks come to fruition. he said people are chasing. some people taking short-term profits, but altman o alternatee are still believers in a santa claus rally and the fact washington will get it right. melissa: nicole, thank you very much. proposals to avert the fiscal cliff coming fast and furious right now. we want to get you up to speed on where every proposal stands. for the first time the president conceding on tax hikes on those over 400,000 instead of 250,000 per year. that would raise in theory $1.3 trillion in revenue. speaker benard plans for tax hikes on those who make over a million dollars along with a trillion in spending cuts. although it looks like we may be getting closer to a deal, speake
. that is incredible. not right. >>guest: it is not right. when i saw that, cuomo is coming to washington, and you showed the capitol you should have dollar bills coming out of the window because when the governors come to washington they want money with their palms up. that is what governor cuomo wants. he wants the federal government to write a big check to the state. we found with katrina, of the $140 billion, according to independent government auditors, there was rampant corruption and fraud and no bid contracts that went to cronies and we estimate that somewhere between 20 percent to 25 percent to 30 percent of the money was wasted on fraudulent contracts. it didn't helps victims. a lot of people got rich but it wasn't the people who lost their homes. >>neil: you can see money for a variety of purposes, the money coming in, helping the victims, helping sandy victims now, but it goes through a variety of nefarious purposes and could fill a hole in the budget. where is the backup to look at making sure this money is going for the pups to which it is intended? >>guest: this is the frustration a
world, the business community, everybody around washington is saying, look, guys, make some progress here. neil: what worries me now is when the next shoe drops. democrats, largely 80 congressman did today, following the congressional black caucus and others like schumer said there's no reason to go after entitlements right now. what's to stop republicans from saying, we're outs of here, we're done. >> there is not a lot to stop republicans from saying, nope, then this is not going to work. we are not ging to be able to come to a consensus before christmas or before we go off the cliff. a big he want of that was john boehner. he is heded home to ohio for the weekend. obviously, the lines of communication remain open with the white house, but that, to me, is very much a move, a political move, saying, hey, you need to come to the table a little bit more, white house and democrats, if we have any chance of making progress and getting a deal. neil: elizabeth? >> well, i think anyone in the situation would agree you can't make theperfect the enemy of the good, but agree that no deal at t
. all day long on cnbc, we are here in washington holding lawmakers feet to the fire and finding out if they are doing their part to rise above partisan politics and reach a deal on the fiscal cliff. good morning again, everybody. i'm becky quick. here is what we know right now. the pace of private talks picking up speed as we now have just 20 days left. however, neither the white house nor house speaker boehner's office are giving any public indication that either side is yet prepared to give up real ground. on a road trip yesterday, president obama indicated that he is willing to compromise, just not on that point about an increase in tax for relthy americans. meantime, speaker boehner says he is still waiting on specific spending cuts. joining us now for analysis, tony fratto, of hamilton place strategies and former white house press secretary and gerald bernstein former economic adviser to vice president joe biden. gentlemen, thank you for being here with us and getting this special day of coverage kicked off for us. >> rising early and rising above. >> exactly. let's talk about
? >> matter of time. >> reporter: tory dunham, cnn, washington. >>> "cnn newsroom" continues right now with brooke baldwin. >> suzanne, thanks so much. good to be with all of you on a monday. i'm brooke baldwin. let's show you live pictures. we're watching and we're awaiting the president, packed room here, these are live pictures from redford, the redford plant, daimler's redford engine plant to be specific today this is the greater detroit area. we're expecting the president. this is an invitation only audience. we're expecting to hear themes of the economy, and middle class. couple of backdrops, just to put this in the back of your head as we continue this conversation with our chief white house correspondent who i'll bring in in a moment here. just yesterday, the president met with the speaker of the house, john boehner, to talk specifically about avoiding the fiscal cliff. we are mere weeks from that, you know, basically kicking in, first of the year. that's when everyone's taxes would be going up. that happened just yesterday. and also you have all these pro union protests happen
to the deadline at the end of next year, i think a lot of the lawmakers in washington will be looking at details. things that were put in place to get the bill passed. maybe some corrections to the bill. connell: scott brown, thanks a lot. dagen: we will soon see corn prices hitting new record highs. sandra smith will tell you all about it coming up in today's trade. connell: we will also get to some of the winners. here they are at the nasdaq today. ♪ there is no mass-produced human. every human being is unique. and there is one store that recognizes it. the sleep nuer store. the only place in the wod you'll find the extraordinarily comfortable sleep number experience. an exclusive collection of innovations that totally individualize your sleep. perfectly comfortable pillows that adjust to your size and shape. temperature-balancing bedding. dual warmth comforters. all designed around the sleep number bed: a bed with dual-air technology that allows you to adjust to the support your body needs. each of your bodies. in the name of human individuality: the sleep number collection. discover how ou
are down 11 points on the dow jones. that's hinging on disappointment from washington. the nasdaq is up two and a third point. my partner here on the floor of nyse joins me in the action. 24 hours ago we were sitting here with a triple-digit gain, actually. now, there is disappointment in washington. >> let's just say the markets are digesting all of this news today, that means moving side ways, a fancy word, folks. we are talking like 30 points. that pretty small. and the president sounding alternative sounding con ciliatory and often combative as you hear from john harwood. here is the bottom line. big movers, bank stocks, home moving stocks, that sue just referenced. all basically flat today. if you take a look at the one sector though that is still continuing to have a great day, doing it day after day and that's airline stocks, very positive traffic metrics from airlines in the last few weeks and these stocks have been moving up virtually everyday. there is your market today. this is a quiet day when you see airlines as the market leader. >> true. good point. we will see what happens w
specializing in commercial real estate in the baltimore-washington area. >> i am not sure with what will happen on the tax treatment of that stuff. i long it for long-term fort foalos. david asbin is coming up on forbes on fox. you are watching all things news. you are watching fox and dave and now. well, liberal are fanning in america today pushing the president's agenda for tax increases with few if any spectaculars about spending cuts. many of these are specific about what they don't want cut and don't touch entitlement spending echoed by democraticic lawmakers. >> i thinkocial security should be taken off from the table. >> moment yoize social security or voucherize medicare or block grant medicaid you lose us. >> but the new forbes report showing that more people in the states are taking money from the government than the private sector, can our nation afford deal that doesn't put so-called entitlements on the table. i am dave. we'll go to. mike, to you. we have to put entitlements on the table? >> for the sake of the over all economy we must put enments on the table. over the
. great to have elizabeth vargas here. >> great to be here. >> it will be warm in washington today, but that high-stakes stalemate is not getting any better. that fiscal cliff, just 29 days until everyone's taxes go up and the white house and congress are absolutely deadlocked right now. >> both sides seeming farther apart than ever. both sides saying, it's your turn to blame. we'll see what happens. >>> also this morning, startling video. it's a little tough to watch but it is okay. it's a prank by a television host setting this magician's hair on fire. now, the magician is okay. he's recovering in the hospital. >> wow. >> what? >> but he is accusing the host of that show of a criminal act. looking at that videotape, it's hard to believe this was any kind of a stunt, as the host claims. >> hard to believe he's okay. >> thank goodness he's okay. >>> wow, also ahead on the show. very special guest today. heidi klum is with us live. here's what she was up to this weekend. looking so glorious. you remember that was supposed to be her halloween costume. hurricane sandy put it on hold a
are in washington in the hearing room of the house ways & of means committee. that committee writes all of our tax laws so this is the room w where any deal on the fiscal cliff would be born or die. we have we have new information on those negotiations in just a moment.. >> that's right, it's incredible it's incre to be here in this room. we're going to talk more about mor this a little later in the show. >> surrounded by all the photographs of all the powerful house & ways means chairmen.and >>> we want to get to some of first. the news first.g with violent ski on the other side ofn the the country, thousands of of the holiday shoppers had to ask thor yesterday as a man wearing camouflage opened fire at a mall hundreds o just outside portland oregon. police say he killed two people and wounded another, then shot another, himself to death. john blackstone is at clackamass town center. john good morning. >> reporter: good morning, norah and charlie and good morning to our viewers in the west. the christmas spirit quickly left this mall yesterday. one eyewitness said the gunman was
week. that gives them precious little time to hammer out a deal. >> doug luzader in washington, thank you. >> that brings us to today's look who is talking. we are talking to speaker -- former speaker of the house. >> the pressure is now they say on the president to get a deal done by the end of the year. listen to this. >> any democrat who thinks this president can avoid responsibility for the economy in the second term completely miss understands american history. he got away with blameling george w. bush for the first time. this is now going to be obama's economy. if it goes sour it will be obama's failure when it goes south. i think president owe bhaum has been such an orator, a lecturer, so much a guy at the center of things and so much power with pelosi and reed in the first two years he really has not gotten the rhythm. he and boehner should be meeting for hours and hours and hours. we calculated president clinton and i met for 35 days all together because you got to listen to each other. you dgot to say look, this is what i got to get this is what i can't do. is there some pla
each other for the breakdown. abc's jonathan karl has all this from washington. all of the focus on speaker john boehner's fallback plan, what he is calling plan "b." >> reporter: that's right, george. talks have got son low, i would say this is the low point, that boehner is moving ahead with the backup plan that the president so opposes, he says he will veto. under plan "b" most of the tax cuts will be extended for those making over $1 million. for those over $1 million, the tax rates would go up. this could do nothing to address the issues. like spending cuts and the debt ceiling. democrats are calling this vote a waste of time. but, george, boehner is saying the president has a choice. support this plan or see a massive tax increase on virtually all americans after january 1st. >> yeah, they seem to think this is going to put the pressure back on the white house. but, jon, like you, i've been in touch with both sides overnight. and these talks right now are going absolutely nowhere. the chance that the country is going to go over that fiscal cliff are really rising. >> report
a correspondent there as well. we'll talk to here. jessica yellin to you in washington. and, first things first, you think here michigan, you think the birth place of unions and you think about all these people who are very frustrated with this, everything i read, it seems to be pretty much a done deal, this right to work legislation, that the governor has indicated he would sign. these are the folks who helped elect the president not too long ago. should the president step in and go to bat for them? >> well, you know, the unions have been enormously supportive of the president as you point out. not only during this campaign, not only as foot stole jer sold helping get out the vote, but also financially with their dollars. the white house already expressed its support for the unions opposing right to work legislation. one of a white house official put out a statement today, matt lairic, saying in part, let me find the statement, president obama has long opposed so-called right to work laws and he continues to oppose them now. the president believes our economy is stronger when workers get good
in washington. speak up for the fiscal cliff is part of the half trillion dollars in cuts to the pentagon. the defense has been saying we will not plan for sequestration's because they don't want to be cautious because it is like a gun to the head. they're now looking into planning for this because we are getting pretty late, and that may become a reality. back to you. melissa: rich edson, thank you so much. lori: let's continue this discussion. it is going to happen, it is exactly what the democrats want. according to scott hodge of the tax foundation. what are some alternatives to raising revenue? joining me with some ideas. to your point, you're written quite extensively on this topic. it seems the economy is poised to fall off the cliff and that's what the democrats and the president wants to happen. >> they want to allow all the bush tax cuts to expire. it happens naturally automatically. they don't even have to vote for it. in january we had to lower taxes for everybody. getting it very simply. lori: a lot of people are concerned. if we do go over the cliff, there's no resolution fo
, and so is the democratic party washington. lou: the bureau of economic analysisfollowing up shows the average value of federal and private-sector benefit packages, federal workers enjoying average benefits of $42,000 compared to average benefits in the private sector of $10,000. we are looking at pay according to a cato institute that puts the average pay of a government worker at $84,000 per year. that's 32,000 more dollars than the average pay in the private sector i mean, these numbers are starting to be overwhelming ad certainly have to be part of what is, if you will, and more positive response to these right to work issues and votes that we are seeing across the country. >> i think that's right. and it steves group, the manhattan institute, has an extra very worth pointing at the differences, but you're right. taxpayers a beginning to realize this monopoly power that unions have over government which is the new frontier for them what the final frontier is really causing a rift between the rank-and-file workers in the ivate sector who have to pay these taxes for increased gov
of good intention, maybe that gets me into trouble my saying that. lou: to surprise of many in washington boehner appears to have support of more voters than anyone thought previously, a new fox poll shows 3 a 3 to 1 margin, voters believe by enacting mostly spending cuts is the best way to deal with the problem. president obama continue its push his ultimatum on higher taxes for wealthy, and republican leaders responding by warning their members to be prepared for christmas in washington because of the stalemate. and joining us now, congressman devon nunez, a member of house aways and means committee. speaker saying they are separated by serious gaps here, what are your thoughts? >> i came on this show two weeks ago, i told you then that president wanted to go cliff diving, that is what he wants to do. he is not serious about getting a deal, if he was so serious, he would not have met with john boehner sunday morning then go out 24 hours later on a campaign stop to michigan railing about some middle class tax hike jarg onljargon he is using. he wants to go off the cliff,. lou: looking at
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